Hi,
I've been following the availability of Trenz FPGA modules on the webshop for a while and the situation is pretty dire. I am considering product development using one of your modules (probably something from the TE08xx series) but I am not encouraged by the availability statements:
TE0813-01-2AE11-A XCZU2CG-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 324.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-3AE11-A XCZU3CG-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 399.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-4AE11-A XCZU4CG-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 454.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-2BE11-A XCZU2EG-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 369.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-3BE11-A XCZU3EG-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 464.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-4BE11-A XCZU4EG-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 504.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-4DE11-A XCZU4EV-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 564.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-5DE11-A XCZU5EV-1SFVC784E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 2 GB DDR4 1129.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0813-01-5DI21-A XCZU5EV-1SFVC784I 5.2 x 7.6 cm 4 GB DDR4 1379.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0817-01-4AI21-A XCZU4CG-1FBVB900I 5.2 x 7.6 cm 4 GB DDR4 1129.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0817-01-7AI21-A XCZU7CG-1FBVB900I 5.2 x 7.6 cm 4 GB DDR4 1969.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0817-01-4BE21-A XCZU4EG-1FBVB900E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 4 GB DDR4 849.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0817-01-7DE21-A XCZU7EV-1FBVB900E 5.2 x 7.6 cm 4 GB DDR4 1724.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0817-01-7DI21-A XCZU7EV-1FBVB900I 5.2 x 7.6 cm 4 GB DDR4 2094.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-2AE21MA XCZU2CG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 339.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-2AI21MA XCZU2CG-1SFVC784I 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 369.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-3AE21MA XCZU3CG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 409.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-4AE21MA XCZU4CG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 449.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-2BE21MA XCZU2EG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 379.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-2BE21ML XCZU2EG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 374.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-2BI21MA XCZU2EG-1SFVC784I 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 419.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-2BI21ML XCZU2EG-1SFVC784I 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 409.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-3BE21MA XCZU3EG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 474.00 expected to be available on 02-Oct-2023
TE0820-05-3BE21ML XCZU3EG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 464.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-3BE81ML XCZU3EG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 459.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-4DE21MA XCZU4EV-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 554.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-4DI21MA XCZU4EV-1SFVC784I 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 949.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0820-05-5DI21MA XCZU5EV-1SFVC784I 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 1339.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0821-01-2AE31PA XCZU2CG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 4 GB DDR4 439.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0821-01-3AE31PA XCZU3CG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 4 GB DDR4 509.00 expected to be available on 23-Feb-2024
TE0821-01-3BE21MA XCZU3EG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 469.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0821-01-3BE21ML XCZU3EG-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 464.00 Ready to ship today, Delivery time appr. 1-3 workdays
TE0821-01-3BI21MA XCZU3EG-1SFVC784I 4 x 5 cm 2 GB DDR4 544.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0821-01-4DE31ML XCZU4EV-1SFVC784E 4 x 5 cm 4 GB DDR4 599.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0823-01-3PIU1MA XCZU3CG-L1SFVC784 4 x 5 cm 1 GB LPDDR4 629.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
TE0823-01-3PIU1ML XCZU3CG-L1SFVC784 4 x 5 cm 1 GB LPDDR4 619.00 Possible to order, delivery time on request.
It would be useful to have a bit of background on what's happening here, and an outline towards future availability of these modules.
Furthermore, is there an overall explanation for why there are differently-sized modules (in particular 4x5 vs 5.2x7.6 cm)? Are some of these sizes older or more recent, or is there any specific reason to specify one size over the other?
Cheers, Sidney
Hi,
QuoteIt would be useful to have a bit of background on what's happening here, and an outline towards future availability of these modules.
Due to Corona and the associated component crisis, almost all FPGA modules had very long waiting times, as we were no longer able to obtain the necessary components in a timely manner. Currently, the situation is easing, but we still have to process the open orders, so we currently have some series no / barely stock.
You can inquire at sales@trenz-electronic.de about the current delivery times for the modules you are interested in.
Furthermore, is there an overall explanation for why there are differently-sized modules (in particular 4x5 vs 5.2x7.6 cm)? Are some of these sizes older or more recent, or is there any specific reason to specify one size over the other?
Different requirements, Larger FPGAs/SoC, more IOs...Always depends on what you need.
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John
Thanks for the information.
QuoteYou can inquire at sales@trenz-electronic.de about the current delivery times for the modules you are interested in.
Unfortunately, that's a bit of a catch-22, since I cannot commit to hardware development using
any of these modules unless I have some indication if/when overall availability will be back to normal.
Some statement on that would be useful; I realize you have no crystal ball but at least on your side you should have a better feel for how the supply chain situation is developing. Are we talking months, years? Or is there really no way to know?
Hi,
regarding EOL and product updates(changes which are needed from time to time), see:
https://shop.trenz-electronic.de/en/Products/Trenz-Electronic/
https://wiki.trenz-electronic.de/display/PD/FAQ
I can't say when which variant will be in the shop. In doubt you can always select custom assembly variant and we must always check the delivery time.
You must write to sales@trenz-electronic.de to ask for expected delivery time, that's nothing what we can tell you inside this forum. Sorry.
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John
Hi,we are talking about month, not years. At the moment, we have plenty of raw material in stock and ramping up production.Nevertheless, we recommend all customers to plan for at least 6 month delivery time and good planning for future needs.
You can sent your technical needs, then we can check which suitable module will be available first.
Best Regards,Thorsten Trenz